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    Post Been awhile since ive been here BUT

    I don't really know how to describe the state of the country right now. We are at a true crossroads with capitalism and socialism and much hinges on this election. Its truly amazing how much political proproganda has been put out in the past 2 years for Barack Hussein Obama. So much we dont know about him, yet we see little attempt by the mainstream media to find out the truth. A presidential canidate who seemingly came out of nowhere and everytime someone actually does research into his past he has ties to EXTREME radicals and radical groups! Yet, for the most part what might be a major news story if a republican is inconspiculously sweep underneath the rug! You have to ask yourself are americans really naive enough to ellect a smooth talking marxist to the greatest office in the world as he promises universal healthcare to americans with money that we dont have and isn't even his? Where is this money going to come from as we bailout banks with billions of dollars of tax payer money?
    Thats when things really get funny. Oddly enough alot of liberal friends see through Obamas delicately crafted lies and are going to vote for McCain. Friends and relatives who wouldn't vote are coming out of the woodwork because they have heard all the empty promises that they know are impossible to accomplish at anytime, never the less in a time of economic uncertainty. One really has to wonder about all the polls coming out and the media declaring Obama the winner already.
    So as Obama promises to fix the economic problems caused by lending practices encouraged by Bill Clinton, Franklin Reines, Chris Dodd and Barney frank (along with the other geniuses who opposed the bill 3 years ago to crack down on these lending practices) he has recieved the second highest amount of money from fannie mae and freddie mac besides chris dodd. It really makes you wonder what he did to deserves such a high amout of money for only a second year senator. He desides that the best thing to do is raise taxes among those who create the jobs. I mean lets be honest you think those small businesses making 240000 are going to try and make 300000 and create 1 or 2 more jobs when thes tax rate is going to go up on them? Yet somehow the media, who have a degree in journalism have become economic experts and declared Obama the guys to fix this problem LMAO. That one just makes you laugh if you have anykind of economic education that wasnt from a liberal nut job professor.
    While im thinking about education obamas great contribution was giving out 50 million dollars that he got from some neighbor guy he really didnt know (thats sarcasm i mean don't we all just wish our terrorist neighbor would give us 50 million) to radical groups who used that money to encourage political radicalism! Just imagine McCain had ties to somebody like this can you imagine the proproganda we would get from the liberal media!
    Last but not least this man from nowhere has been attending a church with a preacher who calls us the U.S. of K.K.K.A. He attends a church for 20 years and doesnt know he preacher is a wacko, yet he says the guy is his spiritual advisor.
    You may be reading this and thinking yeah i heard that on a right wing talk show or heard a response from a left wing site like the daily kos, but what should strike you is why have our highly skilled investigated reporters in the mainstream media not uncovered more details on this. I guess its up to the sane americans in this country to carry the load for the socialist wanna bes!

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    Obama...
    I am flat out amazed that this virtual "no one" has risen to the heights he has.
    Simply on the strategy that everyone was sick of Bush, and if he promised "change" people would flock around him.
    And they did.
    A community organizer?
    Did anyone even know what that was before B.O. rode his horse of "change" into the political arena?
    And I have to laugh at the people who are peeing their pants over Sarah Palin's lack of experience, but who will cast their vote for someone with even less experience than Palin, for President.
    This is one of the best smoke and mirrors shows I have ever witnessed.
    Almost as good as the scam Verbal Kint played in "The Usual Suspects".
    Unfortunately, if he pulls it off, the American public will be the one to pay the price.
    I really thought that the majority of Americans were smart enough not to be fooled by a charlatan.
    How sad to see that I was wrong about that.

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    The question of experience has many sides I think. The US elected GW Bush after he'd only served 5 years as Gov of Texas. He lost a run for the House a while before that. And of the 5 years he served at least 1 of them was spent running for President.

    Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004 and started in 2005, and served in the Illinois state senate from 97 to 04. So technically he's got more experience in political offices than Bush had when elected.

    I'm voting for Obama only because I don't like who McCain has become. I supported McCain over GW back in 2000 also. But I think much of Americans feel experience means "more of the same". Hey, I wish Bloomberg would've run, or Buffett or someone who's bright and thoughtful. But our political machine has all the candidates tied to lobbyiests and PAC money and pandering to what will get them elected. It sucks.

    But for why people might want Obama, maybe they just like the hope they feel for the future. Right or wrong, hope is a powerful motivator. And I know how everyone who hates Obama feels, I felt that way twice about GW Bush. But I've lived through his presidency for 8 years.

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    And thus the power of the Obama campaign.
    I WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE 8 YEARS OF BUSH YOU HAVE ENDURED.
    And yet, he makes no concrete stance for how he will do that.
    Still, his target audience, those who are "fed up with GW and they're not gonna take it anymore" decide they will vote for a candidate with little experience and a dubious past.
    Watch and see what happens when/if he gets elected.
    I truly fear for this country should that happen.
    People think GW was bad?
    Wait until The Paper Tiger gets in office.

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    I think thats whats truely scary here is his past associations and his voting records are radical left wing. You know looking back it things and believe me its very scary that im even saying this. Hilary would make a far better president than Obama. She is way more independent in her thought. Obama launched his political career in the house of an admitted terrorist. It just seems like Obama is practicing the socialist teaching and tactics he so loved in college. He has ties with all these shady characters yet he clames thats not the person he knew. As powerful as the clinton machine is it just seemed like the democratic voters who arent the radical kind didnt realize until it was to late. Unfortunately it looks like most of the just decided to jump on the parties proproganda bandwagon. I have never seen this type of proproganda out of a political party but whats just striking is the mainstream media is on the bandwagon. I guess its a wake up call for freedom loving Americans that if they get caught up in how great this country is and enjoying living here that the radical socialist are hard at work trying to ruin America. Its really surreal in an erie way we could be stuck with a far left wing radical for president because their proproganda machine is so good and McCain is so set on running an honorable campaign agaisnt one of the dirtiest and most corrup campaigns i have ever seen. Its really time for a third party. I heard carville spoting out about riots if obama doesnt get elected , well if he does and he tries to do what i think he will you might see rioting a true fight for freedom from socialism. There are alot of ticking time bombs around the world with the economy and more nations becoming industialized, the battle for oil and nuclear weapons, not to mention the wacko who wants to wipe out the jews. One thing for sure things are going to be interesting lets just hope America wakes up before election day!

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    Passions! This is you isn't it... welcome back (from the heart, I mean it)...
    MC

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    IMHO, many of those looking for something/someone new are actually looking for someone who is smart this time. Someone who came up through the ranks, educationally-wise, etc., who didn't benefit solely from who they knew, who their father was to get them into prestigious schools even though they lacked academically.

    The "experience" card was played out in the last two elections and where has that gotten anyone? A failing economy, open-ended wars on two fronts, America that has lost friends and allies who no longer want to stand with the US on serious issues.

    What I found again to love about John McCain was the other day when he BECAME McCain again! Where has that man been?? All these weeks with his campaign trash talking Obama and making him out to be a scarey, terrorist comrade...McCain began to straight-talk to his audience that Obama, if elected, is not someone to be afraid of and that's he's a decent, family man who is NOT an Arab/Muslim.

    This election is about two men who have different ideas as to what they want to do if elected. Neither one are horrible, scary people!

    Of concern to EVERYONE, should be the recent Palin stumping where she's been, intentionally or not (?) inciting crowds as some screamed about Obama...."Kill him!", "He's a Terrorist", "Traitor", "Off with his head"!

    Is that the kind of campaign we really want to see in America?

    Not saying this about anyone on this board, but there is a problem with some low-information "voters". Those who only believe snippits of information from biased forums, if that. Like the woman that John McCain corrected a couple days ago who told him she was afraid of Obama...cause he's an Arab.

    Someone in the news that was at that forum had a chance to talk to her later and asked her about that. The woman said, well he is a Muslim. The interviewer said, no he's a Christian. Woman said, she didn't believe the interviewer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtj View Post
    Obama...
    I am flat out amazed that this virtual "no one" has risen to the heights he has.
    Simply on the strategy that everyone was sick of Bush, and if he promised "change" people would flock around him.
    And they did.
    A community organizer?
    Did anyone even know what that was before B.O. rode his horse of "change" into the political arena?
    And I have to laugh at the people who are peeing their pants over Sarah Palin's lack of experience, but who will cast their vote for someone with even less experience than Palin, for President.
    This is one of the best smoke and mirrors shows I have ever witnessed.
    Almost as good as the scam Verbal Kint played in "The Usual Suspects".
    Unfortunately, if he pulls it off, the American public will be the one to pay the price.
    I really thought that the majority of Americans were smart enough not to be fooled by a charlatan.
    How sad to see that I was wrong about that.
    Mtj, you couldn't be more wrong! About why Obama appeals to so many, that is. It's not just that we are sick of Bush. It's not just because he talks about change.
    You're selling out and frankly, insulting, people like me who see much more in him! I see a calm, deliberative, intelligent, and moderate man who won't do anything reckless or rash...or without thinking it through. I see someone who's lived his life as a testament to hard work, learning, and achieving the "American Dream". I see a man who has the best chance to improve our relationships with other countries and return our good name to the world stage. I see a man who's personality and personal habits point to being able to successfully work with other politicians to get things done. I see a man who's not afraid to surround himself with the best advice and guidance he can get........and especially is not afraid to listen to those smarter than him!
    After the past eight years of just reckless, stupid and not-thought-out blundering actions....which have caused so much harm to us and the world........I can't even fathom how anyone could vote for a man like McCain, who's campaign has been nothing but erratic and unstable! Shouldn't we put our faith in the man who's calm, cool and collected.........and has shown clearly that he knows how to run things?

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