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  1. #9
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    Re: Peep Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Well,
    it sure ain't light-hearted entertainment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter
    Okay, I get it.
    I guess you are someone who subscribes to the "black lives matter" thing.
    Me, I think all lives matter and we would be better off, as a society, to include all people in a statement like that.

  2. #10

    Re: Peep Show

    People who try to change the protest slogan "Black Lives Matter" to something else, like "All Lives Matter" are missing the point. I don't know if that is simply a mistake driven by misunderstanding, or something deeper, driven by who knows what, but it is a misunderstanding.

    The "all lives" side is saying, in essence, that there is an implicit "Only..." in front of "black lives matter," when really the implicit word is "...too", at the end. Black lives matter, too.

    Someone at Reddit has a long winded response to a request to "explain it as if I was 5 year old". I'll borrow and repost the first couple of paragraphs here:
    Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

    The problem is that the statement "I should get my fair share" had an implicit "too" at the end: "I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else." But your dad's response treated your statement as though you meant "only I should get my fair share", which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that "everyone should get their fair share," while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.
    This is the way that I understand it, and I have no problem with this understanding. I do believe that racism is real and continuing problem in America, that it is easy for us white people to forget that, and that we do need expressions like "Black Lives Matter" to help keep it in our national awareness.

  3. #11
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    Re: Peep Show

    I just don't understand what they think they're not getting their fair share of. Opportunity is there for the taking.
    Agent99

  4. #12

    Re: Peep Show

    "Atticus Finch" in "To Kill A Mockingbird"
    "You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view …, until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."

  5. #13
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    Re: Peep Show

    Until we start thinking of ourselves as "people" (not black people, or gay people, or Hispanic people)...just people...
    lives are not going to matter at all.
    And while that is a lovely quote from one of my favorite books, it is theoretically impossible to climb into someone else's skin and walk around in it.
    No one can see things from someone else's perspective because they are not that person, living in that person's circumstances.

    Sorry the Peep Show thread got derailed.
    It is usually pretty fun.

  6. #14

    Re: Peep Show

    Thanks, MTJ. You're right; peeps are for fun.

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    Re: Peep Show

    Namaste... hehehe!



  8. #16
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    Re: Peep Show

    Peep Yoga!! LOL!!!
    Agent99

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