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Thread: Liar, Liar! Pants on fire!

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    Re: Liar, Liar! Pants on fire!

    Also, why are Nazi groups coming out in support of Zimmerman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicooper View Post
    Certainly hope you are not ever put in a position of the media misrepresenting you... so that others can pass judgment on you... even to the point of having bounties placed on your head... dead or alive... before the evidence comes out and the judicial system has had the opportunity to do its job.

    Wow... just WOW... You continue to show your rush to judge without knowing all the facts. Must be nice living in your world.

    I need to remember to stay away so that jolau can continue his ridiculous debates with himself... the all knowing one.
    And I certainly hope your child is never murdered by some guy for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    And then only getting an "I'm Sorry" from him while he cries poverty so that bail can be set at a mere $150,000.

    I can't even raise $1 for gay marriage in SF, but he can raise $150,000? Who has that kind of money?
    I can tell you, the NRA. Possibly members of the KKK, various Neo-Nazi groups and like-minded people.
    Considering the economy and the fact that people like that typically aren't that wealthy (IE: Middle class or lower), that kind of money could have gone to better use, like putting some extra food on the table to one's retirement/college fund. These are the kind of people that hate unions, socialism, and taxes, but are more than willing spend their "hard-earned" money on some dude's legal fund.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...n-murder-case/

    "Media misrepresentation" is one thing but how and where one receives his money from is another. This is a liar and a cheat that's trying to get away with murder OJ Simpson-style. He probably has the funds to do it too, and at the expense of other peoples' children.
    I bet if this happened to your child, "I'm Sorry" and $150,000 bail won't cut it. I'm pretty certain you would want him in jail throughout the court proceedings, and then some.

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    Post Re: Liar, Liar! Pants on fire!

    If you are going to talk about who is supporting who, you conveniently forgot to mention The Black Panther death threat against George Zimmerman and their call for a bloody race war.

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    Re: Liar, Liar! Pants on fire!

    If that's the case then the safest place for him probably IS jail. Someone with any sort of guilt or remorse over something like this would probably stay there too.

    And who listens to the Black Panthers anyway? They are SO 1970's. For most people, they're a faded memory.
    Hell, even Trayvon's family refused their "help".
    I'm willing to bet the NRA has more membership and political clout (not to mention money) than all of the unions combined, let alone the Black Panthers. And people listen to the NRA when its leadership speaks.
    Hell, I'm willing to bet people pay more attention to OCCUPY than the Black Panthers.

    I'm somewhat more concerned about the Chinese Mafia Triads than the Black Panthers because Dad put some of them away during his career with the FBI, and THEY are PEOPLE OF MY OWN RACE!
    Last edited by jolau; 5.3.12 at 4:46 AM.

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    Re: Liar, Liar! Pants on fire!

    Also, how soon you forget there are Neo-Nazis out patrolling Sanford, FL.
    Forget the bounty, these guys are doing this for FREE!
    These people aren't there to "protect the community", they want to repeat what George Zimmerman did, and kill someone from a racial group they hate and then do it in such a way they can claim "self-defense".
    Don't these people have JOBS? Apparently not.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1409099.html

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    Post Re: Liar, Liar! Pants on fire!

    Jolau -- Unfortunately for you, this is not how the justice system works. The bail set by the Florida judge, from what I read, is pretty standard for a second-degree murder charge when someone is not considered a flight risk. Why should Zimmerman have to stay in jail, if he is not a flight risk, is cooperating with his attorney and the judicial system, turned himself in when he was charged... and has not been found guilty of any crime at this time. Just because you think he should rot in jail and have already convicted him before the facts of the case have been revealed and he has been granted a fair trial does not mean that he should be treated any differently than anyone else charged with a like crime. Do you comprehend the difference between being charged with a crime and being convicted of a crime in a court of law? I do not think you do.

    As far as the fact that Zimmerman raised money on a website, does not mean that he knew how much he had raised at the bond hearing. The website was created two days before he was arrested, and he remained in jail until and following the bond hearing. Once he and his attorney became aware of the money in the paypal account, they immediately disclosed it, they did not try to hide anything.

    Many would have donated to his legal fund during the time Zimmerman was incarcerated. Do you think he was checking his fund from jail with wireless via his laptop? And your assumption about who donates is simply conjecture on your part (as are most of your posts). (from jolau).. Oh.. the evil NRA is behind all of this money... and certainly the KKK are as well... (from me) There may be some NRA members and KKK supporters that donated, but I can assure you not all. MANY (like me) donated because they felt the media was portraying this case in a very biased manner and wanted Zimmerman to get a fair trial. Many of us have not rushed to judgment and will wait for the facts to be revealed before convicting someone based upon public opinion and biased media alone. And I assure you, many, like me, are not members of the NRA or the KKK.

    As far as raising money for gay marriage, start a website requesting donations... you may find you raise more than $1.
    MC

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    Post Re: Liar, Liar! Pants on fire!

    Yes Mini, I agree with everything you said.
    And even if I didn't, I would do my best to engage you in some sort of intelligent debate.
    Unfortunately, the only opposition we have here anymore is a one-sided slant that just pokes fun at any counter-point and raves on about how RIGHT they are.
    And then rambles on to subjects that were not even the subject matter of the original thread topic.

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    Re: Liar, Liar! Pants on fire!

    Hi mtj... Critical thinking is sadly missing on this board... especially by someone whose name begins with a "j". I remember years ago when this same person was out of work and wanted a job desperately... Now he or she throws out the quote above... "Don't these people have jobs?!!" above... Granted it was in reference to a nasty neo-nazi group, but a hypocritical comment nonetheless.
    MC

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