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    Many Americans Still Don't Grasp Iraq War Is Illegal

    by Sherwood Ross | Oct 14 2007 - 11:06am | digg_skin='compact';
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    </SPAN>Mistakenly, many Americans still believe President Bush's war on Iraq is justified because Congress supported it and funds it.
    Yet, as international legal authority Francis Boyle of the University of Illinois points out, President Bush got congressional backing by lying that Hussein had W.M.D. and that Hussein was connected to 9/11. That's fraud, probably the bloodiest, costliest lie in White House history.
    Also, to start a war, a country needs UN Security Council approval, which Bush failed to get. Otherwise, a nation can fight only in self-defense when attacked.
    By attacking Iraq, Bush violated the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907, the Kellogg-Briand Peace Pact of 1928, the UN Charter, the Tokyo War Crimes Tribunals, and the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment and Principles, Boyle said.
    As all treaties become the supreme law of the land under Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, the Bush-Cheney presidency is guilty of breaking all of the above, warmongering in spades.
    In testimony defending U.S. soldiers who have refused to fight in Iraq, Boyle noted that, under Nuremberg, "a soldier has a right to absent himself or herself from committing international crimes." In short, if given a criminal order, the defense used by Adolf Eichmann, Hitler's master killer, that he was only doing his job, is a phony.
    Boyle testified that First Lt. Ehren Watada had the right, "if not the obligation," to say, "I don't want to participate in this." Watada faced an army court martial for not deploying with his unit for Iraq. Watada won a victory when the judge ruled a mistrial.
    Boyle believes, "A soldier has an obligation to disobey illegal orders," which he says is printed in black-and-white in the Army's Field Manual(AFM) 27-10.
    Without Security Council authority, President Bush's war is "a crime against peace," Boyle says. That's also written in paragraph 498 of the AFM.
    "Any person, whether a member of the armed forces or a civilian, who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment (as)...crimes against peace," the AFM reads.
    This broad definition would seem to include trigger-happy private contractors in Iraq.
    And since the U.S. has committed war crimes in Iraq, U.S. soldiers are legally within their rights not to serve there, Boyle said.
    These crimes include torture of prisoners, authorized by former Defense Secretary Rumsfeld and White House lawyers; the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas; and the firing of depleted uranium shells--- this last also a violation of the Geneva Protocol of 1925. "It's a war crime," Boyle said, that is "not only poisoning Iraqis, it is poisoning our own troops."
    President Bush has repeatedly said the U.S. does not torture, but he is no objective arbiter in this matter. The International Committee of the Red Cross, with supervisory jurisdiction, says it is torture and that it is widespread and systematic. Thus Bush and his colleagues are guilty of crimes against humanity.
    Curiously, the public reaction to these crimes includes a large measure of denial. If Congress okayed the war and funds it, many people think it's okay.
    Besides, much of the bloodshed is concealed from their view. Fox TV, for example, runs little film footage of the real carnage in Iraq while reporting endless trivia and gossip. Fox is also continuing its show "24" over Army protests that the series encourages U.S. troops to torture.
    Even though a CNN-Opinion Research Corp. poll last June found 54% of Americans do not believe the war is "morally justified" they appear content to allow Bush-Cheney to serve out their term of office.
    Is that because 4 million of us haven't been forced out of our homes, and another million or so killed and wounded and two million forced to escape abroad?
    Is that because the $1 trillion the war is costing will be passed to our children to pay by the profligate in the White House?
    Is it because our electricity and water supplies haven't been reduced to a trickle, our hospitals aren't busting at the seams with wounded, and our streets too dangerous to walk and our unemployment hasn't hit 50%?
    So far, apart from 3,800 soldiers needlessly killed and 30,000 maimed, the stiffest penalty Americans are paying for Iraq is the gas price spike to $3 a gallon.
    Why is it, the more oil Bush gets his hands on, the higher the price? Maybe Americans would run Bush out of office if the Geneva Conventions made price-gouging by his oil company buddies illegal.
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    Re: Many Americans Still Don't Grasp Iraq war Is Illegal

    how convenient to bring up UN rules then leave out the fact that sadaam never complied with the UN mandate on womd... then we find tapes of sadaam and his henchmen laughing and discussing how they were deceiving the inspectors...the UN is a joke (see darfur and other things), they were being hoodwinked from the get go on the inspections..

    what a joke of an article.... how pitiful it must be to be so obsessed and invested in defeat and to get orgasmic as you accuse your president of illegal war when you know it isn't illegal...how pitiful

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    Well apparently he did, bigeasy......because we didn't find any WMD, did we?
    Hussein Kamel's 1995 private briefing to UN inspectors was leaked weeks before the start of the war. He told inspectors that all the weapons had been destroyed. Kamel was not only Saddam's son-in-law, who defected from Iraq in 1995......but was also the Head of Iraq's secret weapons industries for 10 years. "That after the Gulf war, Iraq destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons stocks and the missiles to deliver them."
    Gee........I wonder why we didn'thear about this on Faux News every night in the run up to this illegal war, eh?

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    not finding any was not the deal..the deal was for him to destroy them in front of UN inspectors...He never did..case closed...... "Private meeting"?...you're kidding ..no?

    there was never any proof of compliance reines... only tapes found recently that have sadaam and his men talking about deception...

    you've got to be kidding...why do you thrive on BS?

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    Re: Many Americans Still Don't Grasp Iraq war Is Illegal

    Here's a question, if he had them why did he not use them during the initial invasion when obviously he needed them most? Stockpiling them solely for export to terrorist organizations so they could use them in a terrorist attack that may or may not happen and at the same time not keep any for yourself is most illogical.

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    we've discussed this before jolau.. using gas or chemicals would not have stopped the butt whippin' that sadaam's army was going to take... it would have been embarassing to him politically and would have given his hated rival Bush a political victory... UN reports of massive convoys exiting iraq the day of the invasion into syria... sadaam NEVER complied with the original UN treaty...he was in defiance and out of compliance to the very end..defiance of a womd demand justified and made the invasion legal and blabbing on other wise is so futile and incorrect. recorded tapes of him and his men discussing the deception have surfaced... further proving what intelligent and honest people have always said..the inspections were a joke...

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    Re: Many Americans Still Don't Grasp Iraq war Is Illegal

    If that's the case then where are they NOW?
    Obviously they are still in enemy hands. And who is going to take the blame if they are eventually used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolau View Post
    If that's the case then where are they NOW?
    Obviously they are still in enemy hands. And who is going to take the blame if they are eventually used?
    Don't worry, jolau..they don't exist! The only Iraqi weapons being used against us are the ones from all those stockpiles that our military was ordered to pass on by.
    It's just amazing how the war cheerleaders just won't give it up on the WMD thing............just can't admit that they were HAD!

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