The Black Rock

[mtj]

It has been speculated that the island has been "moved" before. This would explain why The Black Rock ended up in the middle of the island. The Black Rock is at sea and then POOF, there is suddenly an island underneath.
If that is the case, then there were people on the island BEFORE The Black Rock.
I've also heard speculation that Widmore could be a descendant of someone on board The Black Rock.
I'm hoping that we get some decent history in the next two seasons.

[annsensei]

I think that's possible. it could also explain the nigerian plane and maybe even rousseau's ship (since they came to investigate).

I doubt that we'll learn anything new about the island until the END of next season, though. I predict the first half of the season will be focused on the O6 trying to get back to the island. once they arrive, we'll get clued into the stuff happening on the island. (just like they did with the tailies and the others. we didn't find out anything about them until the losties found them.)

[Thor Twain]

I think the island has been around for a loooooooong time. I keep thinking about that 4 toed statue. They're either going to say that the island has been around so long that it saw the evolution of people who only had 4 toes........or they're going to say that the island came from another planet, where the people only had 4 toes.

At any rate, I think there were people on the island before the Black Rock and I think the island has moved before. I think the Others are descended from those people, and it would be cool if at sometime in the future, Richard would take his shoes off and only have 4 toes! LOL!

[colette h]

Very funny, Alpert with four toes! From the look of it, I believe that the statue is older than the Black Rock or anything we saw on the island so far. Is ageless Alpert that old? I am speaking Greek antiquity here concerning the statue.

[mtj]

Oh please God, can we NOT have the island coming from another planet?
Please?

[Thor Twain]

The island was originally a spaceship, which crashed on Earth. It was LOST! The 4-toed people survived and vegetation grew up around the spaceship. This is why the island has special properties. It came from another planet! Ha ha ha ha! :D

[mtj]

Nanuu Nanuu, Thor.
Truly, I hope that is not the case.
I'm much prefer that the island is the Lost City of Atlantis or something.
Far-fetched, but not as far-fetched as it being from outer space.

[Thor Twain]

Well, I don't think it'll be a spaceship, but I hope it's not Atlantis, either. I think if it was Atlantis, they'd have to have webbed feet! I remember Patrick Duffy having webbed feet in "Man from Atlantis".

[mtj]

I mentioned Atlantis simply because I have always wondered if the title LOST refers not to the people on the island, but the island itself. As for webbed feet, what if Atlantis didn't really sink, but in fact, disappeared? At the time, it would have been the perception of others that it sank.

[Thor Twain]

I'm curious as to why you'd think the island being the city of Atlantis is less far fetched than it being a spaceship. I think aliens are more possible than a city sinking or disappearing (which we've already seen with the island) is more far fetched than aliens landing a spaceship here.

[mtj]

Probably just me being Earthbound, Thor. I've always been intrigued by the LOST Island of Atlantis. People of the time (if you believe in the stories) say it sunk into the sea. But what if it just "moved". :p
I think it's more believable that the island is a part of this world, than of another.
Just my take on things.
Plus, the writers promised no science fiction.
But they also promised no time travel.
So I can already do the "liar, liar pants on fire" thing.
I just don't want to have to do it twice. :)

[Thor Twain]

Did the people of Atlantis only have 4 toes? I know for a fact that Martians only have 4 toes. Every single one of them I've met has had 4 toes. (No, I'm not crazy, just kidding!) :D

No science fiction? Well, I think they're walking a fine line on that one, if that's what they're claiming. I've posted some of the Popular Mechanics articles that say that the island moving and the time travel are theoretically possible, but it's never been done, so until it has, it's still just science fiction.

It's fine by me, I like science fiction. I remember watching "Star Trek" reruns when I was growing up and saying how far out it was, but if you look at some of the things they did back then that are now possible, it wasn't as far out as people thought. Their 'communicators' look a lot like today's cell phones. They would talk to their computers and we can now do that. So, who knows? Maybe someday we'll have time travel and the ability to move islands! Or maybe not. :)

[mtj]

That four-toed statue has always reminded me of the last scene in "Planet Of The Apes". So maybe the island is Ellis Island. ;)

[Thor Twain]

Oh, I forgot to mention the phasers they have on Star Trek. They're very much like the taser guns we have now! See, this science ficition may very well come true. :)

Interesting that you should mention Planet of the Apes. It involved men travelling on a spaceship and crashing into a planet. So........we're back to the spaceship! Ha ha!

Interesting first lines from Planet of the Apes.

[first lines]
George Taylor (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000032/): And that completes my final report until we reach touchdown. We're now on full automatic, in the hands of the computers. I have tucked my crew in for the long sleep and I'll be joining them soon. In less than an hour, we'll finish our sixth month out of Cape Kennedy. Six months in deep space - by our time, that is. According to Dr. Haslein's theory of time, in a vehicle travelling nearly the speed of light, the Earth has aged nearly 700 years since we left it, while we've aged hardly at all. Maybe so. This much is probably true - the men who sent us on this journey are long since dead and gone. You who are reading me now are a different breed - I hope a better one. I leave the 20th century with no regrets. But one more thing - if anybody's listening, that is. Nothing scientific. It's purely personal. But seen from out here everything seems different. Time bends. Space is boundless. It squashes a man's ego. I feel lonely. That's about it. Tell me, though. Does man, that marvel of the universe, that glorious paradox who sent me to the stars, still make war against his brother? Keep his neighbor's children starving?

Sounds a little like Lost, huh?

[mtj]

Very interesting. Had we all been paying attention the first time we watched "Planet Of The Apes", the ending would not have been so surprising.